The Creator in all

“And yet, there are others within this same religion [Christianity] who take a more mystical bent, shall we say, and feel that the Creator is indeed within each being, that the one known as Jesus set the model or the standard for becoming a son of God, and that this station or office or realization is available to all, for did not the one known as Jesus say, “Greater things than I do, you shall do?” How could this be unless this realization of the sonship of the Creator was open to all? The fact that it has been achieved by so few, and of those few even fewer are known, does not remove the possibility, my friends, that this is in your destiny at some point. If not in this incarnation, then another. For as you all know your journey is not of one lifetime only. Many, many lifetimes have you already spent upon this journey; many, many more shall you spend continuing this journey, for in many respects it is an infinite journey, just as the Creator is infinity itself.”

The Principle of Q’uo, channeled by L/L Research on October 1, 2016


The Kingdom of Heaven is within you

“The kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21)

We are living on a planet right now which is in a state of great confusion. To overcome this confusion we need to stop using the information and intellect that are from this world.

Meditation is the most fitting means to gain the proper understanding, for and from it.

Just as Jesus has spoken many times: “The kingdom of heaven is within you.” we turn in meditation towards ourselves and gaze into the infinite vastness of the Creator.

Thus unfolds, step by step, the wisdom that many great teachers have attempted to present to the humans.

based on a message from the beings of Hatonn on June 2, 1974

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German / French

To learn how to love under all circumstances

Group question: Our question today deals with the idea of pre-incarnative planning and people experiencing the catalyst they need to learn their personal lessons. How can we reconcile the idea that people experience what they need for their personal growth with our desire to serve and relieve other souls of their suffering? Is there a line between allowing people to learn their lessons versus attempting to relieve a person of their suffering?

(Jim channeling)

I am Hatonn and come in the name of Jesus, the Christ, to speak through this instrument and we are most grateful to be invited by your group this afternoon.

We have been chosen to respond to this query, for it is one which deals with our specialty, which is the quality that you call love—unconditional and all compassionate love. We feel that this is a most salient query, for it is one which each of you deals in a daily fashion with all those about you; for, my friends, each of you is one which has pre-incarnative choices, and which has made these choices in order to learn certain lessons within the life experience.

There are, for all entities, confusions that occur during the life experience that make the perception of the pre-incarnative choices a difficult feat, for there is much that distracts even the serious seeker from the seeking, much which seems at odds with previous experience, much which needs to be processed in a conscious fashion and then taken to the meditative state in order that it might be seated there as an experience which has been learned and is now available for future use.

Many entities have programed situations which are most difficult to consider experiencing in a conscious fashion in the third-density illusion. There are various reasons why entities may choose to suffer, as you would say, to place themselves in a situation which seems to cause excessive pain physically, emotionally, mentally, and perhaps even spiritually.

Why would entities do such a thing as this—to bring upon themselves that which one would wish to avoid? Is not happiness the goal of your illusion? No, my friends, happiness is not the goal of your illusion. Learning to love under all possible circumstances is indeed the goal which each of you seeks. This is not to say that one cannot feel happy, or joy, and still be upon the spiritual path. It is that the happiness is not that which you seek primarily. Happiness may be an outgrowth of your seeking.

Hatonn, channeled by L/L Research on March 5, 2016

The complete message is freely available in L/L Research’s Channeling Transcript Library, also in German, Spanish and Russian.

Hatonn’s German messages can additionally be read on

That there never need be another crucifixion

If there are no more questions, I will speak very briefly and close through another instrument. We realize that there are several of you in the room who are wondering about the one known as Jesus. This instrument, for instance, is a confirmed and believing Christian, and while we feel that sometimes her concepts are naive, we do not find her Christianity to be a difficulty to us in using her as a channel. Conversely, she does not find us a threat to her Christianity. However, this understanding is not given to all and they may wonder, if we of the Confederation can speak of all religions and all cultures as being one, who then is the one known as Jesus. And we would answer that question as best we can by discussing with you the concept of karma, with which most of you are quite familiar. Karma being a type of cause and effect in which energies are put into action by former thoughts and deeds which culminate in a present necessity for some kind of atonement or balancing. Thus, if someone or a group of people have been very negative …

(Side one of tape ends.)

(Carla channeling)

I am again with this instrument. As we were saying, my friends, before we were electronically interrupted, when an entire culture has developed a very large amount of negative karma there is an opportunity for a consciousness, such a one as you know as Jesus. This consciousness is a special one and is indeed so close to that of the original Thought that it is almost difficult to understand an incarnation of such a being into your chemical illusion. However, such was the desire of this consciousness and as the supreme transmuter, as the one known as Jesus was upon his cross, he transmuted the collected negative karma of the past so that it was no more.

Two thousand years ago, as you say in your language, your peoples began with a slate that was wiped clean of karma. However, my friends, your peoples have been creating another situation that lies somewhat on the negative side. We hope for your sake as well as for ours that you can curb your instincts towards war. And by remembering the Creator and others in each moment of your life, alleviate that karma, little by little, so that there never need be another crucifixion.

This is our understanding of the one known to you as Jesus. We know him also and feel that as a teacher, as one who is one with the Father, and as one who saved his flock fearlessly, he has no equal. This is our understanding of the one you know as Jesus.

But we must remind you, that worship must be not of a man but of a Creator. As Jesus has said to you in his holy work, “It is not I, but my Father in me, that doeth these things.” So let it be with you, my friends, not you but the Creator can live your life also. And each of your days, whatever the external circumstance, may be filled with a special kind of sunshine and love that comes from being at one with the harmony of the creation. I would like to close this contact through the instrument known as B, if she would accept our contact at this time. I am Hatonn.

Hatonn, November 18, 1979

Master Teacher Jesus

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The master teacher known to you as Jesus was able through meditation to become aware of truth. His reactions to experience were of such a nature to cause much concern among those who were aware of his reactions. They did not understand his reactions to the illusion for his reactions were based upon his understanding of truth. This understanding allowed him to act directly as an emissary of this creation. Acting in accord with the laws of his Creator, he was able to fulfill the desires with many he came in contact.

His reaction to this experience is but partially known to the peoples of your world at present, but this will serve as an example. His reaction was one of love. It was a reaction of love that was in no regard whatsoever to the nature of the experience. This love was not necessarily expressed in the way that it is expressed by the people in your particular illusion, for it is not understood. For this reason, this man was hated by many and love by many, many more. His expression of love was very pure in nature. It was not in the same sense as the emotional love that your peoples express in an attempt to indicate their conception of love. It was a simple demonstration of total concern for the fulfillment of the desire of his fellow man. His awareness of this desire was greater than the awareness of those whom he served. For this reason, they did not understand his expression of love. This man attempted to fulfill their real desires. The people whom he attempted to serve were unable for the most part to understand that he was serving their real desires.

These desires, my friends, were simply to grow in a spiritual sense. It was not possible for this man to provide fulfillment of this desire for spiritual growth without apparently seeming to provide that which those whom he served did not actually desire. For this reason, there was little understanding of his service by any but those whom were directly aided in a physical way. He considered the spiritual growth of an individual of much greater importance than his physical well-being, which is a very correct analogy. For this reason his actions at times seemed in divergence with the love and understanding that he brought to those whom he served.

from L/L Research Transcript, May 25, 1974

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